DrSargassi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Awsome footage, terrible music

RickSomchai (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

There is no saying how old the first form of south east fighting started from Burmas end.Burma is a crazy place lol but im sure we both know enugh to say they are 2 forms blend into one that make Muay Thai

RickSomchai (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Beeing the sport that it is to this day. It is still not safe as say... well about all other MA... Thailand holds the name for it in the end... Yes it is there art but they did not make it! They only formed what we are seeing today the name 8 limbs of Muay Thai belong to the Thai it is there style so give it to them! In the end all you can really say is it's a mix of things. MUAY THAI FOREVER!!!

ngaiflex (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I understand what your saying and i aint sayin that muay thai came from cambodia...im sayin,bokator,which is cambodian is the oldest and probably the ancestor of the south eastern martial arts...I know about the Burma/Siam wars and how that developed Muay thai but if you really consider that Bokator is older than Leithwei,muay thai and all the rest,then ul c just what im talking about....Yes,leithwei is older than Muay thai...but my focus is a comparison of all these arts to BOKATOR.

RickSomchai (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Also for the people who think Muay Boran is what Tony Jaa is doing and it has flips in it and all that . Your wrong! Muay Boran started nothing more then Muay Thai with less moves and i know your thinking WHAT?!?! less moves!Well yes it is its from the old days of Muay Thai. First started without gloves and then later rope fist! Then as ngaiflex said some Bokator was added creating the hardest fighting style ever leading to many Thai deaths now days it is more of only a sport.

RickSomchai (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well Bokator is in Muay Thai your right. Understand Muay thai is not from just Cambodia.Bokator is only a part of the fighting style. Muay Boran, aka old school Muay Thai comes from Burma it was not untill later that the Bokator moves where put in it. Really was formed from all over thoughout south east Asia to be what it is today, but was first brought by the King from the times of the Burma and Siam wars trust me it part of Thai history

ngaiflex (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Actually I think its Cambodia that originally bred this whole group of muay thai like martial arts.Infact i personally call them the 'Bokator' group of arts.Bokator is, i think the oldest in the region,and if you look at it in practice, you see that a lot of muay thai and lethwei are drawn from it.Especially muay thai.the techniques are almost identical except Bokator has some tosses and throws/takedowns as well.its lethal.....

youneveri (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

lol...

madis342 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

:O y sick bastard xD

Avdallabill (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

LOL